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Title: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on December 06, 2009, 06:01:26 AM
My group recently investigated a private residence purported to be haunted in Vernal.  A lot of poltergeist activity has been reported along with voices.  One thing that really stands out at this property is that there has been an unusual wolf sighted in the back yard.  The owner is an experienced outsdoorman and he insists that it is not like any wolf he has encountered before.  Each time the animal appears, activity in the house increases for the following two days.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: AmericanPsycho on December 06, 2009, 04:34:25 PM
Were's this located? I know in vernal but be more specific?
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on December 06, 2009, 06:09:34 PM
Like I stated, this is a private residence.  When we do investigations we agree to keep the names and location private unless the owner agrees to have their information made public.  I'm sure you can all understand that these people are going through enough stress without the addition of independent "researchers" showing up at their front door.

That being said, I will share what I am able to within those paramaters.  We're still going through audio evidence and if something relevant comes up that I can post I will.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: AmericanPsycho on December 06, 2009, 07:07:40 PM
Ha you think your sneeky huh i know who the people or now, Had to make a few phone call's easy has that. And they are willing too let me investigate.  :P
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: dubbedup on December 06, 2009, 10:19:28 PM
This sounds real interesting. Did you guys experience anything whilst you were conducting research?
Also was the animal on all fours or upright?
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: lespaul on December 07, 2009, 12:26:33 AM
Definitely keep us posted with some of the results. I personally love the paranormal. By the way, someone smells of BS on the page. Bad.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: AmericanPsycho on December 07, 2009, 02:41:05 AM
Dont you think it's funny how people think they know other people when they dont even live in utah! And dont even contribute to this website i mean personelly i give respect to skinwalker cause he's been there. You other people or just here for the ride and dont contribute nothing i mean you may have your own theories? but thats just it theories and you never been to the ranch soo stop bashing other people like me WHO DO REAL invistagations and not sit behind the computer and think they know it all. SO please if you never been to the ranch stop acting like you know everything about it. should be happy i even contribute with my stories assholes.  :D
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on December 07, 2009, 03:31:42 AM
Ha you think your sneeky huh i know who the people or now, Had to make a few phone call's easy has that. And they are willing too let me investigate.  :P

Interesting.

I made some calls today too.  I've spoken to the folks who own the house in question.  They haven't spoken to you or anyone else about their situation.  They don't want to.  They have not agreed to let anyone else investigate their property or enter their house.  They have no intrest in at all in letting anyone else investigae at this point.  In fact they're too scared to speak with most people and have avoided telling most of their neighbors about the events they are experiencing.

I think at this point we're all pretty clear on what you're doing here on the forum.

Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: terro on December 07, 2009, 07:28:38 PM
Is that how you give respect to Ryan, by coming on his forum and acting like a moron?  Go away please.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: AmericanPsycho on December 08, 2009, 01:56:39 AM
U people r right! lol iam nobdy i jus thot it wud be funny too piss u faggots off kuz yall r wierdos believing ufo's and all this other bullshit and think bigfoots r real i think itz hillarios kuz u guys dont have any proof that they exist. and HERO"S soundz like a dam scam too make money lmao i think thats wut this all is a skam too try to make money. kuz i live in the basin and i dont see jack shit wen i go to the ranch at night! thats wut the funny part is! and yall eat it up! later weirdos lmao funny stuff!
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on December 08, 2009, 02:10:15 AM
Instead of wasting your time and ours, perhaps you should be in school obtaining the education which you clearly need.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: terro on December 08, 2009, 06:01:37 AM
Geez can dish it but cant take it, that was easy.  ByeBye.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on December 08, 2009, 07:15:09 PM
This sounds real interesting. Did you guys experience anything whilst you were conducting research?
Also was the animal on all fours or upright?

Sorry, I missed this question the first time around.

The animal has been seen both on all fours and upright.  The most interesting sighting came from the father:  Between four and five am on a friday, his dog (who is inside the house) is going crazy barking and tearing around the house.  The father goes downstairs, gun in hand because he thought someone was trying to break into the house.  He finds nothing inside, steps out into the back yard and sees what he thought was a wolf at the edge of the property.  The animal rises up on it's hind legs and stands completly upright next to a large tree.  The father says he didn't even think about shooting.  He just stood there.  The dog incidentally retreated into the house.  After a moment the animal went back to all fours and took off.  The father felt very shaken up for a couple of days afterwards.

As for personal experiences, yes we had a few.  The whole place has a very nervous energy about it.  It makes one feel as if something is going to happen at any moment.  I've been in tons of haunted locations and this is like nothing I have felt before.  One of our team up and walked out of the house into the back yard during the investigation.  He looked like he was in a trance and when I touched him he seemed to snap out of it.  He said that he just "felt the need to walk in that direction" but he didn't know why or where he was going.

EMF readings were off the scale around both the front and back doors.  There's not any wiring to speak of and nothing in evidence that would cause this kind of reading.  The readings were also extremly high in the back yard around where the animal has been spotted.

Voices were heard in parts of the house by various team members.  We're still going through evps so I don't know if we caught anything yet.







Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: terro on December 08, 2009, 11:31:52 PM
That is very cool, keep us updated please.  Any size estimates made on the bipedal wolf compared to the tree?
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: lostindimensions on December 09, 2009, 12:37:04 AM
i dont believe this for 1 second thses types of things dont reveal themselves to white people! white people r totally differnt then natives we have special things and white people dont have nothing a skinwalker wolf would want frm them they dont have anything special about them.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: lostindimensions on December 09, 2009, 12:45:36 AM
only thing special about them is they destroy shit! and ruin everything they touch thats why our planet is goin to shit!
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: lespaul on December 09, 2009, 01:09:02 AM
Stupid honkey crackers!

Really dude, you made your point.
You don't believe.
We get it.
Move along.


Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on December 09, 2009, 03:03:20 AM
i dont believe this for 1 second thses types of things dont reveal themselves to white people! white people r totally differnt then natives we have special things and white people dont have nothing a skinwalker wolf would want frm them they dont have anything special about them.

I've got Apache heritage so you're wasting your time with this argument.  I don't believe for a moment that you're native american.  Just some sad little boy trying to provoke anger.  We're not interested.

I believe we should all ignore any further posting from lostindimensions unless he has something useful to contribute.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: lostindimensions on December 09, 2009, 03:10:50 AM
ha! iam full blooded norhtern ute my federal buro number= 3896 iam full blooded i know my council people soo stick it up ya ass if u dont think iam native! lol!
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: lostindimensions on December 09, 2009, 03:13:59 AM
and yes i know fort duchense whiterocks area tridell altamont bluebell pleasant groves vernal naples maeser ballard i can go on about the basin!
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: lostindimensions on December 09, 2009, 03:23:03 AM
well ill tell u this twocrows lets meet sumwere? how about the local grocery store in roosevelt "JUBILEE'S" r "STEWARTS" r the run down hotel "COUNTRY HILLS"? sooo how about it TWOCROWS? lets meet sum place.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on December 09, 2009, 03:24:35 AM
That is very cool, keep us updated please.  Any size estimates made on the bipedal wolf compared to the tree?

Hi Terro,  The size estimate on the upright wolf was about 7 feet.  There was a mark I was shown on the tree apparently made by the creature.  It was a little old at that point but was definetly not a bear mark.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: lostindimensions on December 09, 2009, 03:24:47 AM
r the local pawn shop called " JIFFYS PAWN"? i live here buddy and iam native american full blooded.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: lostindimensions on December 09, 2009, 03:26:41 AM
but i dont believe ur native kuz if u were! u wudnt b on here tryin to reveal native american secrets to white people. u traitor! u must be a half breed a dam MUTT lol. half white and half native.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: lostindimensions on December 09, 2009, 03:28:50 AM
and dark canyon is were the skinwalker lives he dont live at that dam ranch thats 4 sure!
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: lespaul on December 09, 2009, 05:13:05 AM
Dark Canyon you say?  ;D


Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: dubbedup on December 09, 2009, 01:57:39 PM

"The animal has been seen both on all fours and upright.  The most interesting sighting came from the father:  Between four and five am on a friday, his dog (who is inside the house) is going crazy barking and tearing around the house.  The father goes downstairs, gun in hand because he thought someone was trying to break into the house.  He finds nothing inside, steps out into the back yard and sees what he thought was a wolf at the edge of the property.  The animal rises up on it's hind legs and stands completly upright next to a large tree.  The father says he didn't even think about shooting.  He just stood there.  The dog incidentally retreated into the house.  After a moment the animal went back to all fours and took off.  The father felt very shaken up for a couple of days afterwards."


Wow that give me goose bumps just thinking of it.
So it was obviously not a bear which would be the first thing to spring to mind and of course if it was a bear then no doubt it would loot the trash or leave more associated wild animal type signs.

Has this been happening over what period of time and how many sightings have they had.

It makes you think what is attracting them / it to this families home in the first place.

Is the general feeling of these things hostile in any way?

Something like this would good in this situation http://www.whitetailsupply.com/Digital-Scouting-Camera-S40-1020.html there are cheaper ones out there.

Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: lostindimensions on December 09, 2009, 04:33:58 PM
dark canyon yes they have petroglyphs there dipicted skinwalkers. its a bad place to go they got lil people there who will shoot u with arrows that have bad medicine at the tips that can cause harm!
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: lespaul on December 09, 2009, 04:58:42 PM
Have you ever been up there around the canyon? Have you or your family ever had any experiences?
By the way, I still want you to snap a pic at the ranch gate, my friend.
So I know you aren't a hoaxer. ;)
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on December 09, 2009, 07:50:23 PM
Wow that give me goose bumps just thinking of it.
So it was obviously not a bear which would be the first thing to spring to mind and of course if it was a bear then no doubt it would loot the trash or leave more associated wild animal type signs.

Has this been happening over what period of time and how many sightings have they had.

It makes you think what is attracting them / it to this families home in the first place.

Is the general feeling of these things hostile in any way?

Something like this would good in this situation http://www.whitetailsupply.com/Digital-Scouting-Camera-S40-1020.html there are cheaper ones out there.


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A bear was the first thing I asked about.  The father used to hunt and had numerous encounters with bears so he was quite confident that what he saw was not a bear but a wolf, or at least a wolf like creature.

Family members have seen it a total of five times, although they believe that they have heard it on a few additional occasions.  Mostly it is around the back half of the property or one side.  No sightings in the front yard.

Even though it has not shown outright agression, the father says he gets an unnerving chill when it is around.

Thanks for the link.  I actually have some trail cams though I'm shopping for some new ones after the first of the year.

Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on December 11, 2009, 01:13:55 AM
Well, we finished going through the audio evidence that we collected at the site.  Nothing that I can say is paranormal at this time.  Some strange noises that COULD have a natural explanation.

We had a fair amount of issues with the equipment though.  Audio files that were empty, emf meters that wouldn't work properly etc.  The family's electronics act in a strange manner on a regular basis so it seems like a confirmation of what they've been experiencing.

Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on December 11, 2009, 01:14:41 AM
Received word today that it looks like we'll be able to revisit the site.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: terro on December 11, 2009, 01:58:06 AM
That is cool that you can get back there, how many people do you investigate with?   I have been invited to go on an investigation with the husband of my wifes co worker but they have close to ten people that go along and I think that would create problems.  He has some cool equipment and some strange audio recordings so it seems he knows what he is doing.  Are you able to leave a game cam out to try to capture the wolf in between investigations?  I hope you can get some results on your next trip.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on December 11, 2009, 06:13:23 PM
Given the size of the property I took four other investigators the last time.  That created two teams of two and one person to moniter equipment, plenty for a private residence.  My personal feeling is that ten people is too much unless you're doing a  very large site.  Even then, you have to take care with coordinating your people and keeping track of everything.

Actually, I probably will be leaving a game cam out this time even after we leave.  I've already received the okay and I'm planning to put one out a little prior to the investigation and then switch them out.  This way I can have the place monitered for a greater lenght of time.  I'd love to catch a shot of this creature or even something that explains it so the family can rest better.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: lespaul on December 11, 2009, 11:27:25 PM
That's too cool TwoCrows! Please keep giving us updates on this matter. I've enjoyed keeping up with this thread.Pictures are encouraged if you can! :)
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on December 12, 2009, 02:04:03 AM
That's too cool TwoCrows! Please keep giving us updates on this matter. I've enjoyed keeping up with this thread.Pictures are encouraged if you can! :)

No problem.  At this time I don't have any photos I can share due to privacy issue with the family.  If I catch pics of the wolf/creature though I'll work something out!
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: Kami-Megami on December 13, 2009, 04:42:39 AM
Wow what a great chance to investigate this! I too, would love to see pics of the wolf creature if you get any!
I've never gone on an investigation, I would love to someday. I did grow up in a haunted house, though.

to lostindimensions; Do you have a location for this canyon? But more interestingly, I would love to hear more about the 'lil people. '  "Fairy" stories are universal. Not fairies like sweet little flying things like Tinkerbell, but more like the ones you are describing. They are something to be feared. They use "glamour" to  confuse what you see, they can harm you in inexplicable ways.  they Steal children and live stock. And if you step into their world, you may lose years here in ours.

Sounds like it could all go on on the ranch doesn't it?
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on December 18, 2009, 08:19:50 AM
Just an update since I know some of you are interested in this topic. 

I've placed a camera on site and plan on leaving it for a while.  It' well cammoed and has a clear sightline on the area where the wolf like creature has been spotted on several occassions.

We'll see what turns up.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: lespaul on December 18, 2009, 03:51:20 PM
Nice! I can't wait to see. :) So so cool.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: skinwalker on December 18, 2009, 10:20:16 PM
awsome twocrows cant wait to see what you come up with!  Please post results if any...and dont be surprised if you get small red orbs of light rather than a wolf ;) (thats what our deer cams pickup in such paranormal hotspots)
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on December 19, 2009, 04:57:51 AM
Oh I won't be surprised but it won't stop me from trying.  I've phtographed in the area before along with other paranormal sites and often get random orbs or other lights.  I've also had shots that were either completly black or completly whited out.  We'll continue to search and see what surfaces.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: terro on December 19, 2009, 06:04:38 AM
I love that aspect of game cams the anticipation of looking at a weeks worth of pics not knowing what you will see.  The only bummer is when there are only two and they are of you wakling away.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: dubbedup on December 22, 2009, 06:51:58 PM
All this bidpedal wolf stuff really interests me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQVyxA3ROys

The Gable case is very inetresting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fDeT8H2CwQ
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: Kami-Megami on December 22, 2009, 08:33:24 PM
Wow! It sounds like they are playing with you, maybe.
It really is exciting to see what you come up with.

Side note A friend of mine on another board has a sigline from Monsterquest saying "Wolf-like creatures now live in the realm of psychology... and Wisconsin."

Now I can tell him Utah counts, too. :P
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on December 27, 2009, 08:52:27 PM
It sure sounds like it Kami.  His reference of course is to the "beast of Bray road" and other wolf/dogman sightings.  For some reason such creatures seem to be especially active in Wisconsin.

The descriptions that I have gotten from witnesses in Utah are very much in the vein of the classic werewolf.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on January 03, 2010, 09:09:38 PM
Looks like I'm heading back to the site.
Apparently our camera has dissappeared with no trace of it having been there.  I need to see the site myself before commenting further.

Also, there was a new sighting of the wolf creature.  I don't have details yet.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: skinwalker on January 03, 2010, 11:52:07 PM
I live 20 minutes from Brey Rd.  Go there quite often, in my opinion whatever it was is now long long gone.  From the research i did i seemed to be satanic related (satanic symbols and mutilated dogs ritually killed in the area....)
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: lespaul on January 04, 2010, 12:05:32 AM
 :(That SUCKS about your camera  bro! I hope something turns up.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: Kami-Megami on January 04, 2010, 04:12:23 AM
Flip! Your camera is gone?!  Not cool!  >:(
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: terro on January 04, 2010, 05:09:18 AM
Freaking humans stealing stuff.  Maybe the theif will get at the pics and see the wolf and flip out!
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on January 04, 2010, 06:27:45 PM
Well, it could be humans but that's not a problem they've had at this particular house.  I'll know if it was as I'm a fairly competent tracker.  I'll be getting over there probably this evening or tomorrow.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on January 09, 2010, 09:08:41 PM
Here's an update on the camera situation.

The camera had vanished from the spot it was secured in.  Most curious is that there was no sign, human or otherwise of anyone or anything even being near the camera's location.  No tracks, no marks, not a single sign.  I'm a fairly decent tracker and I carried someone over who is outstanding in the tracking field, he couldn't find any evidence either.

Now, since I had a feeling this may be a problem I was prepared so to speak.  I had a way to find the camera.  We did indeed locate it.  It was about a half a mile away, strapped to another tree in the middle of nothing.  It's my camera, no doubt and again, there wasn't a single sign as to how it was put in it's new location.

Also curious but not really surprising,  there's not a single shot on the camera, it's completly empty.

Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: Nas on January 10, 2010, 12:09:11 AM
I'm starting to see a parallel here with the ranch. You know how the camera line was cut in the book? And this camera was moved? It would mean that whatever it is, doesn't like to be filmed.

Now my questions are...
How does it know that it's a recording device...?
How could it know?
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: lespaul on January 10, 2010, 01:29:00 AM
Glad you got the camera back and aren't out any dough. This is truly getting weird.

Is the family still having experiences? Still seeing the wolf creature?

Any strange prints or any evidence around the camera?

Sounds like it's pretty intelligent. Be careful messing with this thing TwoCrows!
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on January 10, 2010, 06:32:18 AM
Glad you got the camera back and aren't out any dough. This is truly getting weird.

Is the family still having experiences? Still seeing the wolf creature?

Any strange prints or any evidence around the camera?

Sounds like it's pretty intelligent. Be careful messing with this thing TwoCrows!

The whole thing's been weird from the begining and it keeps getting more so.  As I noted, there were no signs around the camera.  Not at it's original location nor at its relocated spot.  The camera doesn't bear a single mark either.

The family heard strange noises outside the night before the father noticed the camera was missing.  Thankfully, he was careful not to approach the camera's location, just contacted me right away.  They claim the noise was a low growl similar to what has been heard around the property on numerous occassions.

I will be moving forward with this but yes, I am being careful, thanks for the concern. 

I brought the camera back to look it over in detail.  I'll be considering this weekend what the next step should be.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: lespaul on January 10, 2010, 07:44:53 PM
Low growl would suggest...cougar or bear.
Last time I checked though,they didn't have opposable thumbs and know how to move a game cam.
Padlock it on and chain it to the tree. Maybe a combo lock and chain. Maybe?
Then you can see just how intelligent-mystical-magical the phenom actually is. If it moves it again.
 
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: terro on January 10, 2010, 11:18:09 PM
Finger print it, or next time coat it with grease or something that will smudge and show hand prints.  It seems impossible to approach and move/re attatch a camera and not be photographed.  No prints no nothing?  Did it snow after?  Maybe some fishing line or another camera with no flash to watch the first.  I see guys setting them in opposing positions for this reason.  Is it possible that photos were removed or deleted?  Keep us posted.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on January 11, 2010, 01:38:37 AM
Low growl would suggest...cougar or bear.
Last time I checked though,they didn't have opposable thumbs and know how to move a game cam.
Padlock it on and chain it to the tree. Maybe a combo lock and chain. Maybe?
Then you can see just how intelligent-mystical-magical the phenom actually is. If it moves it again.
 

Actually, it was secured with a lock.  Mainly as a precaution against human thieves and also to make it more difficult for any "thing" that might try to mess with the camera.

I have recordings of various animals and plan on playing them for the family to see if they can identify the sound they've heard.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: lespaul on January 11, 2010, 02:03:52 AM
It was locked...WTF?!?
Maybe like terro said use 1 game cam to shoot towards the other.
Don't tell anyone you are putting the 2nd out or where.
How long was it before it went missing?
Does the familiy know about the camera incident?
I'm not trying to tell you how to do your job. Just suggestions and hoping the best for you.
Seriously, be careful. If this thing can move a cam half mile away and secure it. Think what it could do to you.
It was locked...wow.

Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on January 11, 2010, 02:08:57 AM
Finger print it, or next time coat it with grease or something that will smudge and show hand prints.  It seems impossible to approach and move/re attatch a camera and not be photographed.  No prints no nothing?  Did it snow after?  Maybe some fishing line or another camera with no flash to watch the first.  I see guys setting them in opposing positions for this reason.  Is it possible that photos were removed or deleted?  Keep us posted.

No prints.  No tracks. Not a single sign that anyone or anything had been near the camera.  That in itself is weird as you would expect some normal shots of wildlife.

I actually did consider a pair of cameras but wanted to try this experiment with a single one first.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: terro on January 11, 2010, 02:34:42 AM
Locked!  Wow the plot thickens.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: lespaul on January 11, 2010, 07:02:13 PM
Is the family still having sightings and occurrences in and around the home?
Have or are you going to tell the family about the camera?
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: skinwalker on January 24, 2010, 06:13:01 PM
how is the case proceeding?
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on January 25, 2010, 08:30:24 PM
Is the family still having sightings and occurrences in and around the home?
Have or are you going to tell the family about the camera?

Yes, the family knows about the camera.  The father attempted in the past to photograph the wolf creature but came up with blank film. 

Their strange experiences are continuing as of this past weekend.

I should have more updates soon.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on February 09, 2010, 08:17:44 PM
Just a quick update for those of you interested in this situation.

The camera will be going back up this week.  We had a couple of issues and has you know from these posting the camera was moved.  I've now taken some security measures and I believe we've solved the problem.  I'll keep you posted if we catch anything interesting.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: lespaul on February 09, 2010, 09:15:00 PM
I can't wait. This has been a great thread. Good luck!
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: Kami-Megami on February 10, 2010, 12:30:45 AM
Let us know right away! I'm very intrigued!
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: lespaul on February 24, 2010, 08:19:21 PM
Any new word Two Crows on the investigation?
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on February 28, 2010, 04:35:31 AM
Any new word Two Crows on the investigation?

Nothing recent to report on this.  Equipment is in place so we'll see what develops.  The family is still having experiences on the property.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: OrbsAllOver on March 09, 2010, 07:00:22 PM
why were the 2 mormon kids able to catch the skinwalker wolf on film and u cant?
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: terro on March 10, 2010, 03:07:43 AM
Stirring the pot?
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: OrbsAllOver on March 10, 2010, 03:49:57 AM
nah i just want sum answers ::). lol, looks too me this website is dying? nobody posting anymore?
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on March 10, 2010, 05:31:23 AM
The forum has been slow but these things happen with all forums.

Seems like orbs is really obsessed with these mormon kids.  I'm not sure what he's talking about.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: OrbsAllOver on March 10, 2010, 05:37:48 AM
they were able too capture the skinwalker wolf on film why cant U? 2 me i think ur fake, i aint posting no films i have on here! cause this is all fake just like Robert L. Bigelow lol iam the one who posted that with that fake e-mail adress RLB867@bigelowspace LMAO. and just like that portal shit skinwalker posted saying "he may have seen radiation frm it" and "it lit the whole day for like 10 seconds" he got that frm ME! iam the one who saw those things not him! soo i aint posting my videos skinwalker might try to take credit 4 it! 
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: lespaul on March 10, 2010, 04:09:45 PM
Orbs - I'm not going to beg but, I would love to see any vid or pics you have.

Maybe you have them. Maybe you don't.

If you do...you are no better than the any other researchers who don't show anything they have from the ranch. They just talk. Lots of talking about the evidence they do have. Or they flaunt it.

A lot of them don't want to show the goods or tell the whole story.

Copyright those vids/pics murray and get them up! Don't worry about everyone else. Evidence makes the site go round!
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: terro on March 10, 2010, 06:19:51 PM
It is funny how a picture of a wolf is not just a wolf it is "THE bullet proof wolf"  and anything that is photographed is of poor quality.  I remember something about the Mormon kids but it didn't stick with me like it did with Orbs.  At least if Orbs puts something up we know it is a pic he took someplace near the ranch, not like he is a world traveler.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on March 10, 2010, 07:19:43 PM
they were able too capture the skinwalker wolf on film why cant U? 2 me i think ur fake, i aint posting no films i have on here! cause this is all fake just like Robert L. Bigelow lol iam the one who posted that with that fake e-mail adress RLB867@bigelowspace LMAO. and just like that portal shit skinwalker posted saying "he may have seen radiation frm it" and "it lit the whole day for like 10 seconds" he got that frm ME! iam the one who saw those things not him! soo i aint posting my videos skinwalker might try to take credit 4 it! 

So orbs, let me just get this straight.  You're saying that your mormon kids did indeed catch the skinwalker bulletproof wolf on film? 

Funny, because at the same time you're claiming that everything's fake.  Make up your mind.

Beyond that, stop throwing around accusations about Skinwalker or anyone else on the forum.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: Kami-Megami on March 10, 2010, 09:17:25 PM
Okay Orbs.

You are more than entitled to your opinion.  That's fine.
But keep the mud slinging and name calling out.


What do you think this is? Washington D.C.?  ;)
I'd like to think we are all more intelligent and civilized than a bunch of politicians! *spits*
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on March 10, 2010, 09:25:40 PM
Everytime this guy joins, he slowly works his way to insults and attacks.  I don't think any of us have the time for this kind of behavior.  He's done.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: lespaul on March 10, 2010, 09:30:04 PM
Orbs - Show us your vids! Show us your pics! Evidence makes this site go round! Lets not bicker.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: lespaul on March 10, 2010, 09:59:47 PM
21Murray13 you there?
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: OrbsAllOver on March 11, 2010, 12:16:47 AM
 :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'( :-* :-* :-* :-* :D :D
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: lespaul on March 11, 2010, 12:28:54 AM
 ;) ;D
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: OrbsAllOver on March 12, 2010, 02:36:34 AM
haha iam gettin sum GREAT footage of orbs in the skys 2night! there all over! haha getin sum good shit! yadidamean!
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: lespaul on March 12, 2010, 04:43:34 AM
Put em up!
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: skinwalker on March 12, 2010, 06:47:32 PM
TwoCrows and I are not the same person, but I do respect his opinion and authority on this site.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: Kami-Megami on March 13, 2010, 12:32:01 AM
Orbs,

Here is my gift to you. It's an ebook.

http://www.westegg.com/unmaintained/carnegie/win-friends.html (http://www.westegg.com/unmaintained/carnegie/win-friends.html)    ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: terro on March 13, 2010, 01:43:34 AM
WOW!  Dude time to stop breaking the prozac in half, take the whole thing man!
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on March 13, 2010, 03:23:28 AM
Sorry everybody, looks like orbs is off his medication again.

We've booted him (yet again) and I've removed many of his offensive posts.

Now we can all get back to civil discussion.

TwoCrows.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: skinwalker on March 31, 2010, 03:33:26 PM
they were able too capture the skinwalker wolf on film why cant U? 2 me i think ur fake, i aint posting no films i have on here! cause this is all fake just like Robert L. Bigelow lol iam the one who posted that with that fake e-mail adress RLB867@bigelowspace LMAO. and just like that portal shit skinwalker posted saying "he may have seen radiation frm it" and "it lit the whole day for like 10 seconds" he got that frm ME! iam the one who saw those things not him! soo i aint posting my videos skinwalker might try to take credit 4 it! 

sorry i was in Russia when Orbs made this post.  I have no clue what he is babbling about here.  He never told e any story about day light from a portal or radiation... these are two things that happened to me.  The only thing he ever told me (off the board) was that vehicles come out of the blue portales, and living creatures emerge from the orange portales. 
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: skinwalker on March 31, 2010, 03:34:00 PM
why were the 2 mormon kids able to catch the skinwalker wolf on film and u cant?

what does this mean?  what mormon kids?
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: terro on March 31, 2010, 03:59:40 PM
I think he is referring to a story about some Mormons who claimed to be chased by a Skinwalker with video on Youtube.  Cross confusion of confusing stories by a confused individual I'd say.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on March 31, 2010, 05:42:07 PM
I think some mormon kids chased orbs and scared the hell out of him.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: SkinStalker on May 08, 2010, 04:45:27 AM
wutever happen too this?? lol can't prove nothing a huh twocrows?
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: terro on May 09, 2010, 03:01:59 AM
Could not reist could you??   Can you prove anything?  I think you can so post up those videos and pictures you got.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on May 09, 2010, 03:59:29 AM
Clearly orbs suffers under some delusion, possibly drug induced, that I am out to prove something here.   I've investigated the paranormal for over thirty years, I'm certainly not here to waste my time bantering with unstable kids who haven't learned anything from their elders.
I'm here to share information and ideas with like minded researchers and to make some connections.

I know that some of you are interested in this case and I've had phone conversations with some of you.  This situation took a very intense turn and I've been asked to not post further details regarding this family or their experience at this time.

Thank you for respecting their needs.  If or when I can provide further updates I will do so.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: Kami-Megami on May 10, 2010, 02:27:14 AM
Completely understood, TwoCrows.
Title: Re: Vernal Haunting
Post by: TwoCrows on August 12, 2011, 08:13:26 PM
Not sure why the last two post were added to this topic since this discussion deals with one particular case in Vernal.

Due to that, these postings have now been split off to a seperate topic titled "Ranch Area Hauntings"